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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
克鲁兹真美。阿莫多瓦还是好好讲他的非常态人情关系比较好，硬要和历史作互文，感觉有点生硬。
依旧是很阿莫多瓦的一部电影。但实在是让我意想不到的是他居然在其中安排了Les的情节着实让我猝不及防。
两个主题未免太不搭了，母亲的戏份算得上伤痛后的相拥取暖，可是轻描淡写，没有任何情绪，也并不细腻。历史的戏份简直是加塞的，生硬得像电影里那些植入广告一样，就好像导演一看时间快到了，赶紧带人出来缅怀一下，升华意义。但是，风马牛不相及。
犹豫三星，还是给四星吧。喜欢他回到单亲母亲的主题，但是家与国的串联实属有点勉强。从女二知道真相回家之后开始泄气，之前角色们的种种选择都行云流水，观众非常理解关系的形态为何会变成这样。阿莫多瓦还是好好讲故事讲关系吧呜呜
6.3 结尾才揭晓平行的另一层含义以及基因技术的作用，但中间的奇情和头尾之间太格格不入了
因为西班牙内战前后的历史可能是除中国外我最熟悉的一段了，于是开头大概抓住了阿莫多瓦这次的政治线索，电影也就显得更“亲近”一些。内容上自然可以代入政治的交错复杂、或远或近的联系，但结构上不应该是这种政治式的“顾左右而言他”，否则就会像这部一样“莫名其妙”。阿莫多瓦不从具体而微进入，而是直接挖掘历史遗迹，这份不变真诚和恳切仍然让我万分敬重。
另一面表现因为内乱导致乱葬坟的事件 但该电影不好的一点是虽然剧情上两个故事有链接 但是主题是不相干的 导致前后比较分裂 同时两个母亲的主题也没有很好的收尾 之后直接转入另一个事件 这相当于把两个电影合在一起
3.5 林达写西班牙内战的《西班牙旅行笔记》彻底改变了我对战争，尤其是内战的看法。不过这部阿莫多瓦相对此前看过的倒是没有那么触动我。
夭折的正确，更正的错误，和解的新生；莫说故事狗血，真实的历史更狗血。
El 14 de octubre de 2021, en Cine Yelmo Luxury Palafox, Madrid, con Ignacio, 9,90€.
6.3 结尾才揭晓平行的另一层含义以及基因技术的作用，但中间的奇情和头尾之间太格格不入了
除了弗朗哥历史部分，剩下的就像一部狗血的电视剧。
虽然包含了一些细腻温柔的细节，但整体还是略平庸了
不算是最出彩的作品，但我就是爱看阿莫多瓦的影象，这个电影世界里的女人们多么勇敢团结大爱，女性形象被一次次重新书写。
女人可以向未来予希望，也可以向过去要答案。
真情实感的平行母亲。
阿莫多瓦和佩妮洛普克鲁兹就算是拍金牌调解中央八套小时代我也爱得下去
足够分离的两条叙事，但都在讲着同一个母题：母亲与孩子。西班牙的孩子在溯寻失忆的暴政中被消失的祖先；错换的孩子拥有着无与伦比的爱，来自她们的母亲，哪怕死亡也无法带来母女间的陌生感。虽然并不是很喜欢这种用集体命运干扰女性形象的背景，但这次视听稍显克制的阿莫多瓦再次在一个细节中击中了我，色彩玲珑虽然有效地中和了情感的厚重，但我从影院出来一度呼吸困难，在回家路上因为过度放任沉溺于泪眼而导致坐过了站。不过这很难讲是因为什么，或许是“等待”。等待一只虚妄的手握住我的虚妄；等待一个已经跨海而来的陌生人；等待一个死于非常年轻时候的母亲的出现。在一个和阿莫多瓦、茨维塔耶娃、佩索阿交换个体私密记忆的夜晚，等待迷雾散去。
history will not shut it's mouth
这些netflix巨制就像华丽的糖纸包着最廉价的巧克力，如果本身就是小打小闹可能还看不出来，一试图做大就各种露怯，从历史的角度来看的话，希望还是活不长久的。希望高司令多多出演动作片！
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