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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
尤其这次以较以往更精简更少的奇情编排，以两个母亲的轨迹和遭遇，串联起了西班牙内战的过往，引入了关于女性、血缘和人类传承的思考，举重若轻地完成了个人和民族的对撞，家族过往与国家历史的对照。
3.5/抛却了奇情，用情感作为叙事纽带，将一段夹杂着巧合、意外与悲伤的故事，镶刻进充满创伤的历史背景当中，从母亲与孩子的连结，至生与死的跨越，阿莫多瓦一如既往的温柔。
杂糅两条主线 就算是隐喻也让人摸不着头脑 同性情节更是奇怪 结尾只能是一脸懵
最后故事太“happy ending”了，说得太圆。中间一些拍摄手法（跳剪暗示时间的过去，这过去里是有信息的）体现出janis的坚毅很喜欢。关于微观和宏观层面“平行”并置“诚实的艰难”的讨论非常好。
表演和剪辑都很好，但整体上故事层面的两条线索各说各的很奇怪。70
(20220301) 3.5 奇情倒不是很奇了 一开始什么都很明了 标准套路 但是导演投放在角色上的坚强、温柔和各种了不起的情感 还是熟悉的好味道// (20220501) 第二遍在电影院看 还是被最后一镜震撼 以及 觉得爱慕杜华真的是个宝 两个母亲的关系、情感、沟通 处理太高级了 是高级的人生经验和感悟 来自高级的文明世界 很多人恐怕一辈子都不可能有这样的道行
就挺…莫名其妙的…看完脑子里一堆问题没有解答。但两个小演员的演技还挺不错。
还行。2022-7-23 20:29:33
问题主要集中在中后段两人形成全新却又陈旧的关系后，情感出现断裂不再流动自如；内核表达/叙事动机的过于暴露削弱了表层抓马应有的反作用力（前半段真好看…
哪哪儿都正确，滴水不漏；人权、女权、生育权，全都要管。
历史不会沉默，永远不会。两位母亲依靠棉签，依靠孩子连结在一起，追溯，回忆，她们之前的爱和情，她们拥抱在一起，母亲是什么？后代是什么？伟大，热爱，赞美，这部也许不是最好的阿莫多瓦，但一定是及格的阿莫多瓦。
哪哪儿都正确，滴水不漏；人权、女权、生育权，全都要管。
那条政治暗线和两个母亲之间的明线，始终是平行的，没有很好的串联起来，导致看的时候，感情也是割裂的。一般般吧。
很多人觉得此片拍得割裂，我却觉得，这前后承接恰恰好，正因有了前面故事的沉重，才能对比，展现出出我们对历史，对前辈是否太过轻描淡写了~曾经，我们可是他们最最珍爱的孩子啊
伊森霍克出场不到10分钟吧 糅杂多种类型的惊悚在最后出来的成片可以说是相当难看的可怕 虽然一众小朋友都表演的特别用力 …
阿莫多瓦序列里不算最好。但是今年看到最温馨的作品。那个年代下，西班牙女性的故事，从年轻人到老年。有意思的是上一部犬之力是女导演拍男性的险恶，这部是男导演拍女性的善良。
2000年以后的阿莫多瓦基本就是好一部无聊一部的节奏，历史部分不说，抱错孩子的故事怎么中间还愣是加了段阿黛尔的生活。
除了几个转折点外大部分内容都很流水账，而且最后接近二十分钟跑题严重。明显故事概念没熬熟就拍出来，大概也是因为阿莫多瓦这种多产导演不管如何还是会按时间出作品而不会磨太久。
前期一直渲染妹妹的能力，然而等故事都要结束了才有用，有点断层
纵向是溯源，“母性”贯彻到底，母亲不仅是一个生理性角色，也代表事物传承的根源和连接；横向是同时存在的两组平行，不过对我来说还是有些许割裂感，从女性主义到人道主义的跨越并不是很成功。尽管本片中的一些情节设置有些刻意——Penélope出演的电影中，同性剧情总是比异性剧情更让我惊叹她的魅力。
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