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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
能猜到差不多全部的故事走向，唯一溢出的是第一个肇事司机的死，但那种耻感和罪感似乎又太奇怪了一点。
那个女的也太可怜了！无法得到原谅而自杀！可那并不是你的过错啊！
這種探討殘酷人性的救贖電影 看的實在不舒服 陰間新聞還嫌少嗎
讽刺摆在明面上却也仅仅只是停留在明面上，整体比较平庸。有几场戏是挺好玩的，但总体来说却又不够好玩。故事的创意其实还不错，剧本写得不出彩。表演完成度很好，全片最大的加分点
表演出色，喜劇性強。但一切盡在預料，缺乏驚喜或震動。總體而言是有趣的片子，值得一看。
日本只是个典型环境，陷入echo后就难出来了（不过也可以把它做成生意）。（2022-02-19）
海边的曼彻斯特是独白，这是群像，社会事件，多米诺骨牌效应，角度复杂多变。古田新太厉害👍🏻
还是很不错的。尽管看预告片大概能够猜到电影的情节。非常日式的电影，可以看到他们心灵的方方面面。故事果然是浓重的忧郁色彩里最后透露出那么一丝光亮的氛围。有一点心疼桃李桑，感觉好多戏里他都是在演这种苦情的角色，就算演坏人也有种苦情感（个人感觉）。人还是要懂得和解，尤其是与自己。
能猜到差不多全部的故事走向，唯一溢出的是第一个肇事司机的死，但那种耻感和罪感似乎又太奇怪了一点。
西语世界导演特有的画面语言下 肆无忌惮和全然不在乎地调侃与讽刺 辅之以意料之中却又意料之外的反转与呼应 是对后疫情时代电影行业的批判 亦是一针麻药无法缓解的痛楚 或许是 爱之弥深
其实中间绝大多数情节都是没有惊喜的，一直到导演跟影帝在死亡面前的对视。整部下来，我站佩内洛普。
所谓的人间惨剧就是第二天在报纸的犄角旮旯处登篇几百字的豆腐块。
可惜没有一条贯彻的情绪线，毕竟自嘲为主，像是把多个灵气十足但相对独立的片段串在一起
当然，这也是自己狭隘的偏见罢了。
在我这和濑濑敬久的《友罪》一种观感（2021年旬报十佳第七，映画艺术十差榜首）
父亲以为自己爱女儿，但不曾了解过女儿的爱好。超市店长做了对的事情，但一直活在愧疚中。肇事女司机或许是家庭的原因，明明是无意的，但自责到自杀。肇事男司机只是说了几句，撇清责任后就继续生活。媒体只要像豺狼一样伺机而动，胡说八道一翻就能左右别人的判断，当有新的热点后就快速的失忆……所有人都很苦，生者和活者。像我理解的日本这个民族一样的，所有人都像被困在牢笼里，渴望有一天自己能和自己和解。
原来导演就是之前拍《杰出公民》的，再加上相同的男主奥斯卡·马丁内兹，难怪如此惊艳。不得不说，类似本片这种弱剧情，强表演的设定，非常考验主角的演技。三位主演水平没话说，联手贡献了一出好戏。尤其女主佩内洛普·克鲁兹，表演极具个人风格化，游走在两位男主之间，游刃有余，堪称全片核心。十分期待国内能翻拍，已经在想三位主演找谁了，哈哈。
即使是探讨舆论暴力、道德困境这样的话题，内在的情感依旧能保持温和克制，我觉得这是日本文化的力量。这个故事也让我们看到法律或者道德的局限性。以及，艺术对拯救人心的作用。
小机灵小嘲讽，对于讽刺艺术来说过于冗长了。安东尼奥班德拉斯从年轻到年老的不靠谱。佩内罗普科鲁兹的可爱性感永不老去。
太精彩了！特别适合在电影院看，看两人互掐很有气氛。table read的细节非常真实了——什么一句晚安念十几次，什么6.5分醉，把导演的随心所欲刻画得入木三分。Julia就是西班牙版姚安娜。一人分饰兄弟是在说Fargo 3和伊万男神吗？像《狗镇》一样的影视舞台化呈现也很精彩。导演可能有建筑fetish，看完好想去这个foundation美丽的空间里工作。
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