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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
打一星的可能是被纸拿征服教育的没有爱了吧，体会不到赵婷想传递的东西，可怕
还行，但我没有共情。感觉像是一群人在过家家，虽然讨论的命题很大，但是无法代入，无法take it seriously。
其实还行吧，美术摄影真的很棒啊，仿佛还在nomad land，剧情弱和老套是意料之中了，期待赵婷多拍点啊
不行，文艺片导演还真的不能导爆米花电影。可以感受到赵婷想拍的恢弘深刻，但感觉变成了苦大仇深。动作场景没出现几个，导致根本没觉得危机有多严重，死亡也缺乏共情。人物出场太多，每个角色又都想展现并且有故事线，就导致女主也被严重弱化了。也不能算群戏。整体感觉就是温吞没劲，结局也很容易预料。
按着赵婷的大同逻辑，怎么有一部分选择性忽略了。#简直变种西游记
有种融入了历史的厚重感，
我寻思超英片再烂能难看到哪去呢，原来还真的能这么难看！
两星
最开始第一场有点装bi，集人类狗血剧情于一体的机器人版爱恨情仇
很尴尬的设定，几乎可以永生的永恒族，大部分人的能力都是那么弱鸡，天神派你们来消灭变异族，但又不给你们能真正克制变异族的属性和能力，就好像让你去干翻敌对的机械化部队，却只给你一把小刀和盾牌一样，所以导致整个过程相当的无趣，导演指导经验浅薄，又是一个装逼犯，拍了一部剧情片拿到了金球，就成了香饽饽，以为就是全能型了，漫威要的是有内涵、有想法的商业片导演，不是文艺圣母婊，悲天悯人，但自己还是一个连自己祖国都不爱的绿莲花，票房口碑双扑街，不怪别人，就怪投资方是瞎了狗眼的沙雕！
《永恒族》作为神话题材，和《尚气》对比有些勉强，应该首先说超越《雷神》前两部，尤其是十个新人物同时登场，放在两个半小时的电影里已然平衡得不错了。依旧的拯救全人类戏码也蒙上了一层神学和道德悖论的外衣。
不否认超英题材一度将电影的艺术性和娱乐性糅合的恰到好处，大概从黑暗骑士发轫，到复联四终结。娱乐性就是大场面大调度的爆米花让普罗大众走进电影院惊掉下巴，艺术性就是令迷影人群在喧嚣热闹之后会对当下对未来有投射性的思忖和推演。
低情商：怎么拍的跟16年前后国产特效大片似的 高情商：张艺谋水平
有很多西方文化的基因。混合了东方的一些传说。作为殖民者。现在欧洲、美国总是妄图重新塑造世界。以西方的标准衡量全世界，衡量全宇宙。唯我独尊，不合我意的就要推倒重来，你们都是源于我的，都是我的低级附庸。
Hello haven’t seen you serval thousand years! Goodbye, see you another serval thousand years. It’s hard to make a commercial movies with literary way. Those artistic scenes were quite good though the comedic parts were not working. Guess no one wants to add those boring jokes in their art work. I will take that as a compromise.
本想2星，最后改1星。太弱智了。还好和大家一起吐槽看，否则我早就坚持不住了。想象力低下，强行维持这个丝毫不可信的构架，在里面使劲演啊演啊。关键几个主角的魅力值比较低，也没有演出一个让人印象深刻或者信服的角色。主要指Sersi、Ikaris。极少几个镜头稍微有点大片感。但是deviant的设置很俗很差，各种打斗也非常俗套，不知道在以往多少年的电影里出现过多少次了。
另一条赛道的赵婷闯入漫威的宇宙制作体系中，拍出了一部很不漫威的漫威电影。这显然不完全只是一部工业流水线作品，但也很难说是一部成功的作品。影片依托于一个相当粗糙拉胯的剧本，在爆米花和个人表达之间别扭地摇摆着，结果是两头都没太讨好。至于沸反盈天的政治正确说，其实可以看作是好莱坞当下的趋势必然，需要减滤镜去看待。哀恸广岛核爆一幕，缺的是历史往前其他人类灾难的补充。只有这一幕，难免会陷入立场的怀疑与争论之中。
Thanos did nothing wrong...漫威的题材走向或许映射了现实世界里人类从科技和 AI 的恐惧演化为对灭绝的恐惧吧。无论是否有这个企图，片子点到了一些存在主义和人口伦理，甚至还有近年越发受争议的 longtermism。这么多沉重的话题本可以严肃地说，却被强加的难笑的片段冲淡了。许多陈旧的设定让习惯于美漫题材的观众觉得几乎没有什么惊喜。最惊讶的反而是在卡司里见到了比尔弟弟。请好莱坞放过他，不要让他和 Andy Serkis 抢饭碗了。
抛去争议话题的短暂一幕 影片的完成度还是很好的 感受到了永恒族在使命和大义之间的挣扎 每个角色都有自己的独特一面 这部影片可以看作是漫威的守望者 结局其实不该留那个悬念 破坏了影片独立的完整性
漫威清楚自己在拍什么吗？世界观的构造全靠嘴述，人物多但没有一个立体的印象深刻的人，超能力的构造乏善可陈，漫威像被变异组吸走魂魄一样连自己最擅长的都丢了。别再他妈吹新意和深度了，一群空壳的人物和廉价的故事能包裹着什么好东西？本质上还是流水线生产的产品，加了些政治正确的点缀罢了，至于zhao 本身，连自己成体系的美学风格都没有，还只是对着美景调调色使劲拍，影像没有丝毫生机和灵动，选个宏伟的主题想讲道理结果自己心理没墨水讲半天讲不下去换个更宏伟虚浮的所谓爱的主题凑数。我不期待zhao和关于永恒族的任何一部影片，水平不够的庸导也就搞搞政治正确吧
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