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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
前面觉得一般，结尾还是有被震撼到。美院也是把风格化做出来了。还有，终于懂为什么北影节要把“红军与白军”改成红与白了。
摄影组的默契，就像神圣罗马帝国的选帝侯们一样，而演员们的萧山话水平，直接让我恐怖谷拉满了……
杭州/6.5。看的时候想到三部电影。《拯救大兵瑞恩》《伊万的童年》和《沙家浜》、、、
怎么说呢 前面做的黑夜暗调？太迷惑了 环境是出来了效果 但是感觉不到啊 而且拍的这么沉浸式 光效不得做好。有几段有苏联片那味道了 当然 全面冗长的铺垫为了后面最后一点冲突的 我觉得也可以接受的 情绪到位了
非要这样装逼拍电影吗（裂开）......
新瓶装旧酒：用并不精致的（伪）风格化摄影和美术去包装一个老套的故事。剧情上学1917，视觉上学伊万的童年，但是1917的缺点全学了过去，老塔连皮毛都没学到。
美术设计当然算是特色，但横向对比水墨风不如国师《影》，油画美术质感不如扎导《斯巴达300》，成本差距当然能作为部分理由，但能让人眼前一亮的设计着实不多，只是总体风格足够统一，不过命题作文能够有所表达，对人性略有挖掘，实属不易
从没见过这样的国产战争片：剧本，美术，摄影
战争会把我塑造成哪一个自己呢？
3000多人的队伍，最终留下姓名的只有几时人。没有过份的煽情，没有宏大的场面，没有空洞的口号，这个片真的拍出了红军战士的朴素的理想。
看睡着了两次…节奏有点慢，然后前面卖惨后面又开挂…就…不行啊
剧组的摄影机滑轨是不是质量不好。。。有美的感觉，喜欢最后一个镜头。但是人看完都没分清真的难受，调度的存在感也太强了
整体影片质感适合大银幕
不费力地将他人异化为符号的自己，
5.31 杭州映后见面会场。画面色彩很美院风，剧情台词无力吐槽。优点很明显，独特的黑白水墨美学+恰到好处的摄影运镜；缺点也很明显，糟糕不堪的演技+毫无内容输出的剧本+突兀割裂的后期配音。PS：映后交流没见过这么喧宾夺主的，请部分美院学生不要在别的包场组团夸夸，请把发言机会还给我们。
（0604来福士主创见面会）前面睡着了，真枪实弹段落才醒过来。我果然不太适合诗性电影，但这种尝试还是值得肯定的。映后分享有几点印象比较深刻，①zf当年想要的原片名是《挺进吧》②导演觉得很多普通观众审美不行需要教育，所以很多好片子票房不好③国美电影教育偏诗性电影风格。
这部电影给我最深的触动就是完全表现了我们的革命精神，不像国外战争片，他们更多推崇的是个人英雄主义，而我们则是对普通人的个人信念和民族信仰的探讨，电影很好的展现了普通人信念转变的过程，而这也是电影和观众最共情的部分。
虽然有很多问题，比如设计性并没有想象中那么强，有一种浓浓的“滤镜”感；全片的影像基调并没有很好统一，段落之间存在一定割裂；人物、故事太简单，空有符号没有内在联系，想往诗意那个方向做又欠火候，主题模糊表述不清；以及画面亮度过分的暗，让人看的真的很累等等。但是，在这样的大环境下做出这种主旋律+风格化美学的尝试无疑是值得鼓励的；或者也没有那么多预设，不过是一次误打误撞罢了……
写了一篇长评，比较详细地阐述了为什么电影结尾完全扭转了我对电影的评价。
北京国际电影节。 低成本电影，看得出主创团队想突破一些传统主旋律电影的做法，算得上是一种探索吧，但至于做到了多少就见仁见智了。情节太零碎了，没有衔接，台词也太白了，过渡处理得比较含糊。央美的朋友说这部电影的色彩看起来很不舒服，是一种很奇怪的、饱和很低的灰调。不过看得出来为了追求诗性，摄制组在镜头上下了很大功夫。
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