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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
又抛出一个伦理问题，相当敏感了。可以选择不堕胎，但反堕胎还弃婴加杀人结局如此童话，感到不适。
是啊，你们要是彼此之间早点相遇就好了。
底层视角，将母亲和掮客绑定起来参与到整个叙事中去，结尾太善良了缺少点力量。
金棕榈之后，是枝裕和的创作是不断下坡的道路。是金棕榈的分量太重，压得是枝裕和创作焦虑，还是自身的江郎才尽。不如以此为素材拍一个是枝裕和版本的《杰出公民》，强行破圈，格外期待。
好嘛裴斗娜演了个人形评论音轨（按照目前西方文艺工作者的主流视角这个小孩肯定在片子开始前就被打掉了。。
两个多少小时几百个镜头都没能有一个镜头让我相信IU是那小孩妈
2这一次，掮客、妓女、杀人犯和孤儿组成的小家庭，美则美矣，但着实无法洗刷浪漫化苦难的嫌疑，特别是结尾，每个角色都做出完美正义地抉择，圆满却难以服众。是人物神圣到让我怀疑世界，仍旧是市井气不足的日式温情。
是枝裕和式理想家庭，一群看似糟糕的人在一起，生活也变得没那么糟，甚至很多时刻充满着温情。影片中讲着那么糟心的事情，处理得却很理想化，太理想了，像是偷来的两个小时。谢谢你的出生，也欢迎来到现实世界，它常常很差劲但总会有一些美好闪过，会越来越好的。很喜欢鸡汤电影，也可能是当下的我很需要鸡汤电影。
📥 “能出生在这个世界，真的谢谢你”，羽星。
7/10.
宋康昊和姜栋元表演不错，人设完整。裴斗娜表演不错，人设有缺失。李知恩人设不错，但表演怎么都感觉在戏外不走心。李珠英可爱，但人设不完整显得不搭调。影片烂尾，结尾的温情让人虚空。这个故事最后应该是悲剧，才更符合主题表达。结尾让宋康昊哪怕死于意外都会加分，为救抓捕他的李珠英而死，这样李珠英也不致于是工具人了。影片后面三分之二以1.25倍速飘过，更爱《小偷家族》。6.8/1.94万 短评8719条 %38/49/13 【IMDb7.3/1500 全球票房1354.29万美元】
水土不服的问题已经说烂了，但放到同是东亚文化语境下的韩国，比《真相》还是强一些的。
这些人凑在一起真的是，乱七八糟，毫不相容，毫不相干。
4.男主在列车上问女主之前留下字条是会接回孩子及如果舍不得可以留下孩子时，每当女主真心想回答时列车都进入隧道，银幕黑屏……表明女主不能正面面对的这个镜头设计给人留下深刻的印象
是枝裕和式理想家庭，一群看似糟糕的人在一起，生活也变得没那么糟，甚至很多时刻充满着温情。影片中讲着那么糟心的事情，处理得却很理想化，太理想了，像是偷来的两个小时。谢谢你的出生，也欢迎来到现实世界，它常常很差劲但总会有一些美好闪过，会越来越好的。很喜欢鸡汤电影，也可能是当下的我很需要鸡汤电影。
给《掮客》的五星，不如说是对宋康昊的告白。他真的太棒了，不仅仅是自然真实的演技，从艺那么多年，合作过那么多优秀的导演、演员，斩获大小奖那么多，还是忠武路三驾马车之一！可是他一丝油腻和匠气也无！我忽然很庆幸一直没有看《小偷家族》，才能把比较和期待降到最低来看这部电影。（裴斗娜的演技也好棒！另外希望中国的帅哥演员们看看姜东元，帅气有时候放一放，路才更宽）最后，其实不太明白为什么说是枝裕和离开日本就容易水土不服，《真相》也好《掮客》也罢，我恰恰觉得，他的风格，为他国电影带去了一种奇妙的化学反应。
完全看不到是枝裕和的影子…姜东元永远给我是《那小子真帅》里的样子
关于生育孩子的问题总是聚焦于母亲，那父亲呢？这是责任的空缺，是人性的沉默之处。“在生下来之前打掉罪就更轻么”这大概是我永远也不认同的点。
继承是枝近年来非血缘亲情和失意者温情的主题，一段犯罪情节剧嵌入其中，配以一些快餐式的批判输出。多亏是枝的笔触，这些欠缺巧妙的设定没有崩塌，我们依然可以较平静地对待这个浮于表面的当代童话。
人贩子题材的影片很多，这部虽然没有超越，但也是这个题材的佼佼者！没有韩风过度的煽情，没有日本的道貌盎然，还是是枝裕和的娓娓道来，和一点留白！总体很好的结合了日韩电影的风格！
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