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A brilliant and outragously funny satire of society, 7 December 1999
Author: Dave Joerg ([email protected])
"Flodder" is one of the funniest movies ever made and few people realise that it is a Dutch movie made by none other than the Holland version of John Carpenter, the famous Dick Maas, author and director of the thriller "Amsterdamned". The Flodder family is the reincarnation of the term a-social. When the whole family bunch, basically all bastards, criminals and sluts must be relocated from their City slum because of toxic waste under their house, the city council house no choice. The only available space is in the "Zoendal" - the "Sun Valley" the best area in Amsterdam where all doctors, snobs and businessmen can afford to live their lives. And where the central point of interest and politics is the tennis club of the community. The Flodder family brings devastation to the tranquil world that ruled before. They are simply unbelievable. The characterisation is incredibly funny, beginning with Ma Flodder who searches other people's trash cans for food or making illegal liquor in her cellar and ending with the eldest daughter who is the biggest slut on earth. Together they make the most horrible family imaginable, a sort of immoral mirror image to the Brady Bunch or the Waltons. When the City counsel of Amsterdam hoped that the Flodders would show their good will to be more civilised in their new area, it turns out that Holland's most famous family would rather bring out the worst in the rich people of "Sun Valley"-wonderland. The rest is a hilarious, brilliant and well made social satire that can be watched as a provocative movie as well as a straightforward comedy. Dick Maas at his best. I salute him! Flooder was the Dutch smash hit in 1986 and brought two sequels and a tv series. All of the sequels were nice but not as great as the original.
Flodders (1986) is available on DVD in Germany in a dubbed German version in Dolby Digital 5.1. under the name:
"Flodders -Eine Familie zum knutschen"
Why is First Floor Features, the producer of the movie not bringing the Dick Maas blockbusters out on DVD in the Netherlands, I wonder. The are not even available on video there. These movies have so much potential, still to this day and have a huge silent but true following.
“Do you have contempt for your government? (你是否蔑视你的政府)” - "It's nothing compared to the contempt my government has for me.(与我的政府对我的蔑视相比, 我的蔑视不值一提)”
对于这段历史不了解，但整个影片发展到后期令人热血沸腾，是那种压抑后的热泪盈眶~
一部分人看来这部电影揭露了美国之耻，但这部电影也同时揭示了美国何以为美国，美国何以伟大—蓬勃有力的公民社会，不同意见交锋牵扯，公民享有意见表达渠道，关键时刻可以仰赖的普通人的良知和正义。
很喜欢这些纽芬兰人们 很喜欢女机长的故事 很希望有机会看现场
精彩！故事本身就是一个很复杂的议题，涵盖的关系、势力、思想很多，索金编剧也是厉害，每一条线都细节丰富，每个人物都个性分明，没有一个纸片人，同时主角也十分突出。整个过程科普了很多六十年代的历史，也有很多可以对照现实的值得思考的点。看完有点失落，我看过了十九世纪的故事，看过了六十年代的故事，我也想看有人讲今年的故事，讲去年的故事，讲三十年前的故事。还有可能吧。一代人的溃败，总有下一代人怀抱短刃上路的明天。
-How much ia the worthy price to call off the revolution？
同样是游行示威与警察发生冲突的庭审题材，同样是流媒体出品，本片和Steve McQueen的Mangrove比起来简直是云泥之别。且不谈两人在剪辑与对演员的调度上的差距，索金所一向擅长的理想主义鸡血、子弹般的金句到了本片也变成了无休无止的口号与exposition，对人物的塑造也相当表面
乏味的很，为什么英雄联盟和芝加哥七君子这两种水火不容的电影类型，都能在豆瓣找到共鸣？因为，它们来自灯塔。我从这部电影里只能看到美国民主的混乱不堪，貌似程序正义背后的弱肉强食，伪善
我记得第一次看是在第一次艺考的那个冬天看的现场盗摄版，北京下了初雪，我躲在被窝里看这部剧，心里充满了对舞台的向往，然后情不自禁地流泪，至今我仍然觉得小成本音乐剧的成功典范就应该参考它，绝妙。
于漫漫黑夜中，绝望无尽处，看到光，那是人性中的“善”，总有希望，总有温暖。
这部音乐剧不仅做到了令人难忘的音乐效果，亦在幽默的基础上增添了人性的光辉。
影片结束看到了导演瞬间“恍然大悟”，索金大大的快节奏及嘴炮永远不会让人失望。拿历史的事情来表现历史重演也是非常有讽刺意味了。
他们revolution，他们蜕化，他们轮回。
影20370：他在求权求公平的时候被封口！他们被逼到橱窗外！历史在重演！请记住，人群中有卧底！会被引诱、误导、嫁祸！博弈的时候你没法解释！不要入断章取义的套！
2020.11.19
言之谓民权主义的抗争与反击，我更愿意将其视作面对铁一般的国家机器的殊死反抗，无畏却有力。理想主义难憾，国家资本亦是难堪。这节奏掌握的真他妈好啊，明明是纪实题材，却拍出了更加戏剧化，富有冲击力的影像，这可比软绵绵的PR左翼鸡汤得劲太多了
艾伦索金深谙如何把精彩事件拍无聊之道 以及这一旦陷入昏睡停滞之际 就大放BGM搞煽动煽情手法是跟我国导演习得的吗 我国有被顾里附身的郭采洁 英国有演了霍金就回不去的小雀斑 他们都是真正在用生命和灵魂在演戏啊
索金教科书级的表现，虽然开头信息量太满，调度技巧也略显单调，但是公审闪回带出民运过程的叙事手段是索金拿手好戏了。愤怒的民运如何走向暴力，公权力如何使用权力打压异议迫使对方使用暴力，也在2个小时里用一种通俗好懂的形式讲清楚了。在一个全球局势风起云涌的时代，这部电影来得太及时，用一个60年代的故事证明了历史是周期性行进的。
the whole world is watching，望尘莫及
看过艾伦·索金最不好看的作品，作为剧作家成名的艾伦在本片中少了以往的犀利和讽刺。除了马克·里朗斯和弗兰克·兰格拉的表演，其他演员都显得尴尬、做作，感觉有种历史传记的大包袱驼在身上。除了噱头和煽动反抗情绪，不知道这部影片还有什么作用。
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